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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/careers-a-spanko-ought-not-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-3589</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 03:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no. I didn&#039;t mean I&#039;m not out as kinky at work. (I&#039;m not btw.) I *meant* that  one of my coworkers was trying to out me as *queer*. Granted, my sexuality at work isn&#039;t a secret, I just choose not to mention my partner to certain coworkers. It&#039;s just frustrating. Sorry for the confusing comment. It&#039;s been a long week.

Kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no. I didn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m not out as kinky at work. (I&#8217;m not btw.) I *meant* that  one of my coworkers was trying to out me as *queer*. Granted, my sexuality at work isn&#8217;t a secret, I just choose not to mention my partner to certain coworkers. It&#8217;s just frustrating. Sorry for the confusing comment. It&#8217;s been a long week.</p>
<p>Kris</p>
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		<title>By: Adele</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/careers-a-spanko-ought-not-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-3563</link>
		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris - I hadn&#039;t even thought about the complications that would arise in a teacher&#039;s carreer if the &lt;em&gt; students &lt;/em&gt; found out about their kinky life. Dealing with the bosses is hard enough. *shudders* I don&#039;t think not living openly is shameful: sure, it&#039;s nice to be the sainted martyr of the Kinkdom, suffer for your ideals and the like, but venturing outside your comfort zone before you&#039;ve calculated the risks, planned your strategy, and are sure you can cope with - it just wouldn&#039;t be wise.

Robert - Actually, I have this secret hope that the more people are discovered to have kinky sexual lives, the less outrage it will provoke in the future. That said, I&#039;d rather they were not &quot;discovered&quot; in the sense of being outed, but rather came out comfortably and openly. Which is not going to happen. But one could hope...

Amber - Well done for guarding your secrets so well. It seems like your friend is interested enough in the kinky goings on to keep mentioning them - perhaps you can just tease him back about that.

Wintermute - It&#039;s a good point about being blackmailed. I have every sympathy with people who don&#039;t wish their kinkiness to influence their career options, but choosing a career that is not blackmail-prone just ultimately saves a lot of headache.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t even thought about the complications that would arise in a teacher&#8217;s carreer if the <em> students </em> found out about their kinky life. Dealing with the bosses is hard enough. *shudders* I don&#8217;t think not living openly is shameful: sure, it&#8217;s nice to be the sainted martyr of the Kinkdom, suffer for your ideals and the like, but venturing outside your comfort zone before you&#8217;ve calculated the risks, planned your strategy, and are sure you can cope with &#8211; it just wouldn&#8217;t be wise.</p>
<p>Robert &#8211; Actually, I have this secret hope that the more people are discovered to have kinky sexual lives, the less outrage it will provoke in the future. That said, I&#8217;d rather they were not &#8220;discovered&#8221; in the sense of being outed, but rather came out comfortably and openly. Which is not going to happen. But one could hope&#8230;</p>
<p>Amber &#8211; Well done for guarding your secrets so well. It seems like your friend is interested enough in the kinky goings on to keep mentioning them &#8211; perhaps you can just tease him back about that.</p>
<p>Wintermute &#8211; It&#8217;s a good point about being blackmailed. I have every sympathy with people who don&#8217;t wish their kinkiness to influence their career options, but choosing a career that is not blackmail-prone just ultimately saves a lot of headache.</p>
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		<title>By: Wintermute</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/careers-a-spanko-ought-not-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-3488</link>
		<dc:creator>Wintermute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it&#039;s true that people who are kinky should not choose a life in the 
public eye.  But I think that we all think of our professional lives and
personal lives as separate.   So I do have sympathy for people who want
to choose a career that appeals to them, regardless of whether they are
kinky.  In a better world we would not have to worry about this.

I think that you would never want to have a secret that someone could
blackmail you for.  My wife knows everything about my sexuality and what
I do on-line.  I&#039;d rather not have my sexual life directly associated with my
professional life, but if I had to, I could live with it.

Wintermute</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s true that people who are kinky should not choose a life in the<br />
public eye.  But I think that we all think of our professional lives and<br />
personal lives as separate.   So I do have sympathy for people who want<br />
to choose a career that appeals to them, regardless of whether they are<br />
kinky.  In a better world we would not have to worry about this.</p>
<p>I think that you would never want to have a secret that someone could<br />
blackmail you for.  My wife knows everything about my sexuality and what<br />
I do on-line.  I&#8217;d rather not have my sexual life directly associated with my<br />
professional life, but if I had to, I could live with it.</p>
<p>Wintermute</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/careers-a-spanko-ought-not-choose/comment-page-1/#comment-3462</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I&#039;d add that my husband is a highschool teacher (at a private school), and I used to be as well, and the whole family is highly conservative Catholics, so no, we wouldn&#039;t ever want this to surface in anyway, nor would I want my children to know when they are old enough to understand (which means cutting down on the action significantly), although it&#039;s not going to be an ultimate disaster since it&#039;s happening in the context of marriage and not in any way outside it. In my whole history the only person who wasn&#039;t my boyfriends that found out was a college friend who overlooked me looking at kinky stuff online and has teased me back in college when I was reading Nietzsche (you know the quote, my husband likes to repeat it too - going to see a woman? bring your whip!) Ironically, that friend with whom I went to school overseas happend to live only two hours away from me where I live now, and we keep in touch and get together quite a bit, so he has teased me on couple more ocasions about being kinky, but I am fine with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I&#8217;d add that my husband is a highschool teacher (at a private school), and I used to be as well, and the whole family is highly conservative Catholics, so no, we wouldn&#8217;t ever want this to surface in anyway, nor would I want my children to know when they are old enough to understand (which means cutting down on the action significantly), although it&#8217;s not going to be an ultimate disaster since it&#8217;s happening in the context of marriage and not in any way outside it. In my whole history the only person who wasn&#8217;t my boyfriends that found out was a college friend who overlooked me looking at kinky stuff online and has teased me back in college when I was reading Nietzsche (you know the quote, my husband likes to repeat it too &#8211; going to see a woman? bring your whip!) Ironically, that friend with whom I went to school overseas happend to live only two hours away from me where I live now, and we keep in touch and get together quite a bit, so he has teased me on couple more ocasions about being kinky, but I am fine with it.</p>
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		<title>By: iwasrobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>iwasrobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 08:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad that society is not as open-minded as we would like. There is an increasing trend toward perrmissiveness of &quot;ordinary&quot; heterosexual sexuality (heterosexuality?), but at the same time an increasingly vocal societal phobia toward kinky sex. There used to be a certain amount of &quot;don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; but the collective societal paradox is becoming too much for many.

Part of this is, I think, to do with the increasing numbers of people in positions of trust who are being outed by the media, although I not necessarily for being spankos. The whole men (it&#039;s usually men) behaving badly thing makes good news but is bad press for anybody who is different, because they are tarred with the same simplistic brush: if you&#039;re not like us, you must be like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that society is not as open-minded as we would like. There is an increasing trend toward perrmissiveness of &#8220;ordinary&#8221; heterosexual sexuality (heterosexuality?), but at the same time an increasingly vocal societal phobia toward kinky sex. There used to be a certain amount of &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; but the collective societal paradox is becoming too much for many.</p>
<p>Part of this is, I think, to do with the increasing numbers of people in positions of trust who are being outed by the media, although I not necessarily for being spankos. The whole men (it&#8217;s usually men) behaving badly thing makes good news but is bad press for anybody who is different, because they are tarred with the same simplistic brush: if you&#8217;re not like us, you must be like them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a teacher! Where I work (at an unnamed, progressive non-profit) my private life would not cause me to be fired should it surface; however, said circumstances would make it IMPOSSIBLE to control my class. It&#039;s a delicate situation, but I have little fear of being exposed as kinky. I am convinced, though, that last week a coworker was trying to out me. I&#039;ll be the first to admit that it&#039;s shameful (to me) to not be completely out at work considering all of the work I did/do in the GLBT community, but there you have it.

Kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a teacher! Where I work (at an unnamed, progressive non-profit) my private life would not cause me to be fired should it surface; however, said circumstances would make it IMPOSSIBLE to control my class. It&#8217;s a delicate situation, but I have little fear of being exposed as kinky. I am convinced, though, that last week a coworker was trying to out me. I&#8217;ll be the first to admit that it&#8217;s shameful (to me) to not be completely out at work considering all of the work I did/do in the GLBT community, but there you have it.</p>
<p>Kris</p>
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		<title>By: Adele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 23:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber - Your guy sounds far too wise to even want to be a president :)

Eayore - I&#039;m sure the MPs have an awesome time, until they get exposed in the News of the World ;)

Erica - Your job sounds perfect for the lifestyle. Good for you to arrange your life to fit with your kink, not the other way around. (I take it, if you were a super-hero, your super-power would be Grammar of Doom? ;) )

Michael David - Hmm, the biker connection is an interesting one. Arguably, it&#039;s harder to cover up than the spanking kink... The question is, though: who would want to cover up their kink all their life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber &#8211; Your guy sounds far too wise to even want to be a president :)</p>
<p>Eayore &#8211; I&#8217;m sure the MPs have an awesome time, until they get exposed in the News of the World ;)</p>
<p>Erica &#8211; Your job sounds perfect for the lifestyle. Good for you to arrange your life to fit with your kink, not the other way around. (I take it, if you were a super-hero, your super-power would be Grammar of Doom? ;) )</p>
<p>Michael David &#8211; Hmm, the biker connection is an interesting one. Arguably, it&#8217;s harder to cover up than the spanking kink&#8230; The question is, though: who would want to cover up their kink all their life?</p>
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		<title>By: michaeldavid</title>
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		<dc:creator>michaeldavid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes indeed, I know a woman who is an avid spankee and she is working on a degree and has hopes of working in politics. She could be in for a shock. A female lawyer friend of mine, not into spanking but was turned down for a judgeship on account of her much earlier biker connections. It can be a slippery slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed, I know a woman who is an avid spankee and she is working on a degree and has hopes of working in politics. She could be in for a shock. A female lawyer friend of mine, not into spanking but was turned down for a judgeship on account of her much earlier biker connections. It can be a slippery slope.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make very good points, Adele. It seems like certain careers were made to derail one&#039;s kinky lifestyle. Besides politics and teaching, I would think anyone in any sort of religious field is at huge risk.

I am a freelance proofreader/copyeditor. I work from home, so I have no boss and I answer to no one, and my work is low-key and low profile. So far, I haven&#039;t had any problems. 

And it&#039;s SO much fun teasing tops when they use poor grammar/spelling. :-D  -- Erica</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make very good points, Adele. It seems like certain careers were made to derail one&#8217;s kinky lifestyle. Besides politics and teaching, I would think anyone in any sort of religious field is at huge risk.</p>
<p>I am a freelance proofreader/copyeditor. I work from home, so I have no boss and I answer to no one, and my work is low-key and low profile. So far, I haven&#8217;t had any problems. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s SO much fun teasing tops when they use poor grammar/spelling. :-D  &#8212; Erica</p>
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		<title>By: Eayore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eayore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was young once, I think.

I always thought spanko MPs enjoyed the thrill of a double life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was young once, I think.</p>
<p>I always thought spanko MPs enjoyed the thrill of a double life.</p>
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