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Girls and Boys Spanked Together
There is a type of spanking videos that doesn’t exist (at all! OK, I haven’t seen them all, and you may point some out if I’m wrong, but I’m 90% sure I’m right).
I’m talking about a F/MF or M/MF video, that is, a scenario where a girl and a lad are punished together. They misbehave together, and the incident gets dealt with. They get spanked. Together. A plot where this happens isn’t so hard to imagine (brother and sister fighting? mixed school students copying homework from each other? two servants breaking something valuable and blaming it on each other? whatever), but there’re not many such video in the market.
Why? Huh? Huh?
I expect, I know why they never get made: the producers suppose (and this may be confirmed by polls) that people who watch MF/F videos and people who watch MF/M videos are completely different markets, and viewers of these videos don’t cross over into other genres.
Right.
Isn’t it unfair, though? I’d love to be in a film where I get punished alongside a nice-looking lad, who has to be brave to impress me, while I can be girly, and frilly, and whimper a lot.
This, of course, gets into another rarely explored territory in the spanking industry, which is young, good-looking men. Don’t even start me on that subject.
Anyway, my point is, there needs to be an F/MF or better yet, an M/MF movie, and I want to be in it. Please. Pretty please.
I mean, producing spanking videos is not a hugely lucrative business anyway, and most people lose money or just about break even. Why not lose money on something like this?
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I’ve always wondered about that too. My (sadly) ex partner used to trawl the net for material featuring male subs, whilst I enjoy material featuring females. The sex of the dom(me) was of little consequence to us. It would have been nice to have found a film along the lines that you suggested which we could have properly enjoyed together. The closest we got was some school type stuff (online, I’ve forgotten the site name, but wouldn’t mention it here anyway) where the “lads” were fat, balding 50 something year olds, and completely unsuitable for the roles they were playing. No issues at all with them appearing in films, but whoever cast them for this particular production was either desperate or simply didn’t give a damn that the ’suspension of disbelief’ of the viewer would be stretched to breaking point. I now hear that line from Blackadder…. “I’m not having anyone staring in disbelief at MY willy suspension” – pehaps younger men are simply shy for this reason! lol.
Now *that* is an interesting proposition. Actually, there are an awful lot of switches who do ask why I don’t make femdom/male sub films. This is something Billy and I have been intending to do for some time and still not had time to start. However, I think as long as the Domme in such a film was female I think there would be a lot of interest in a film like this.
I think you’re right Adele that the problem is with the producers, but not for the same reasons as you think.
My own opinion is that the majority of producers of spanking material are male. Most of the guys I know do not like the idea of producing something with male subs in it because they personally don’t like it/aren’t into it. Which I can understand because a lot of the smaller producers are lucky to break even, never mind turn a profit so they might as well shoot the stuff they find kinky. Which is precisely why Billy and I were going to approach the male sub market ourselves (without Paul!)
I love this idea. So let’s get you, Niki and Razor to the cottage, perhaps with Yasmin too, (and of course I have to Domme cause I’d just get the biggest kick out of that) and let’s get going!
Of course, the producers of male sub orientated stuff have a head start on this kind of production and I’m not saying there isn’t a market for such films with a male top – just that the market for one with a female top would be much bigger I think.
Richard – of course, you assume that both you and your partner would have enjoyed the mix of videos, but it could be that you would have gone “eww! don’t like that, turn it off!” for the opposite reason :)
Lucy – LOL I can just see you sitting there, going “now, what else can I sink lots of money into, without ever seeing it back?” I do agree that F/MF would have more promise (though M/M being a weakness of mine, I gravitate towards it). So! *sweet smile* When are we shooting? :)
Jennifer Brooks’ company did one a few years back called “Spanked Niece and Nephew”. That’s the only one I know of. Too bad too! Awhile back I went to a spanking party with my girlfriend at the time and we got spanked side by side. It was so much fun!
PS: I love your site, Adele! I hadn’t gotten around to posting anything till now.
Well, I know there’s at least one F/MF video out there… Jennifer Brooks made a film called “Spanked Niece & Nephew” some years back. I’ve seen it and I honestly can’t recommend it, but, just so you’re aware.
Link:
http://commerce.surfnetcorp.com/acbuild/showdetl.cfm?&DID=44&Product_ID=29&CATID=3
What a lovely idea Lucy.
I would like to have one scene with Adele over my lap as well.
I love her sassy attitude.
Razor
There is also one on realspankingsinstitute.com I think, though it’s possibly on realspankings.com, when Betty is caught with a boy in her room both of them get spanked together.
I can’t find a link, but there is (was?) an Eastern European company that produced a series of St Thomas look-alike videos; one of these featured a school boy being caught with a female student — they were both punished.
Yes this is true,
I think it was on RS. I can’t remember what kinds of reviews it got.
But this is a nice idea.
Razor
Quite agree about this, as I know Niki F does. I’ve seen both the vids mentioned above, and unfortunately neither of them is much good, IMHO. There’s certainly a gap in the market there.
Long ago,there was a silent 8mm film of a boy and girl being spanked together. The lad didn’t appear to like it at all, though the latter part of his punishment was eased by having his cock sucked by the girl, which rather spoilt what authenticity it had!
Batsman
Ah, yes, an M/mf video would be delicious! I think the reason there aren’t any is because there are too many Ms who might be OK with M/f and F/f and even F/m, but not M/m. Even in a purely disciplinary, non-sexual context. I think the guys secure enough to enjoy M/mf are rare and don’t comprise enough of the market to make it a worthwhile venture. **pout, sulk**
I am surprised by the number of personals on BS and other fora along the lines of “Headmaster seeks boys, girls or couples for discipline, etc.” I think those are the *true* spankos, if there is such a thing. Absolutely no discrimination re: gender; they just want a bottom to spank! LOL I think it’s way cool.
Oh, and Razor? Anytime, love, anytime.
Hurrah! So you’re all in then? Are there are cheap flights over here early 2007 Razor?
I can think of a few videos that contain F/mf (and M/mf) scenes, because I’ve been in them.
Shanelle has done a few – both on DVD and as downloads, and the St Caths videos include several scenes where both males and females are getting punished together.
All the ones I can think of are school type scenarios.
Simon
Ms. Lucy,
I shall certainly be checking on flights.
Something tells me it isn’t wise to keep the
Matron waihing for too long.
Love, Razor
It sounds like you’ve started a project! Please let us know if you publish… that is something I’d really love to see.
I think this needs an unusual degree of creative passion to make it work, and it’s not really surprising to me if previous attempts have turned out a bit phoney.
My guess is it’s easier to have single sex spankees because the film’s focus can be a lot more pure. For me personally, videos where women cane men have a totally different quality to those where women are on the receiving end. The actual details of what I’m looking for may be very personal to me, but my guess is it’s quite common to react differently to the 2 scenarios.
In the F/m case (which is my real kink), I love to see the woman determined to inflict pain, obviously knowing how to use a cane to great effect, not holding back at all, and ideally giving some signs that she is quite enjoying it. Although I am identifying with the man all along, I’m not really interested in his reactions, and I definitely don’t want him to be too demonstrative.
Conversely, the great fascination for me in an F/f or M/f film is that I find women are so much better at embodying what it feels like (for me) to be caned. In all honesty, even if a man could do it so well, I’m not sure I would be interested. I’d also prefer to feel that, no matter how severe it is, the caning is not given with too much enthusiasm, more out of a sense of duty and with a hint of reluctance.
Therefore, to combine both in a single video would require quite a special story line in my opinion, to make sense of why the interactions would be so different. The idea you’re suggesting, where the boy acts brave and the girl whimpers, could be a great new perspective that just might work. If you crack it, maybe a lot of people would find it interesting to watch.
Spike, problem is, whenever people to articulate what they like about each particular type of video, you see that they like things for reasons so wildly different, that I have no idea whether a single video can make more than, oh, about a dozen people happy.
I expect that a guy in a video would try to show off his nonchalance, but that depends on the character and the director.
(Personally, when I watch F/M stuff, I’m almost entirely uninterested in the woman, and prefer the man to be reduced to the condition of a sniffling little boy, but that’s just me. *g*)
Is there any particular guy whom you fantasize about getting spanked together with? ;)
Well, there’s a lad who stars in these M/M school videos… though I won’t hold my breath. ;)
I agree with you Adele that we are all so different when it comes to what we most like to see. Even so, I still say I’d love to see you in the video you’re describing. By the way, I think sniffling little boy is good too, though would prefer to think I never sniffle myself.
Well, Spike, I’m sure that if you were told that the spanking would continue until you showed real remorse, there’d be some sniffling. *eg*
Spike- You mean you’ve never scaled the dizzy heights of a sniffle ?
Not ever ?
OMG !
Madam and I rarely pass up the chance to get the session up to
sniffle-level. It signifies the passing of the “just good fun” preamble
and the arrival of the “starting to get through to you, am I ?” phase.
It is, if you’ll pardon a terrible pun, a seminal moment.
C
Oooh, keep talking, Chris, keep talking ;)
Keep talking about *what* ?
I’m just an observer, here.
It’s your blog !
And you do it *so* well.
I’m just going to put on some old 70’s Bacharach, now,
and have a cup of tea ……………
“Canes, and boats and planes,
dah, dah, da dum, da diddy dah dum …….”
How about an F/MF plot in which the domme doesn’t actually do any of the punishing, but instead requires the submissives to cane each other? Flip coin to decide who gets it first. Then switch off for four sets of six. After which, the domme departs, leaving the pair to administer aftercare to each other :).
Here is an emule link to the film that person described [LINK REMOVED]
I’ve also seen a few Asian films like what you’ve described. I didn’t understand the words, but the plot was pretty easy to figure out. Just goes to show, that before you say it doesn’t exist, or no one’s ever done it, check the internet.
James – sounds neat to me. I’ve played a few scenes like that, it’s pretty hard to make yourself spank somebody when you’re not that way inclined – a truly devious punishment. Lovely :)
WK – Good call mate: posting a link to a pirate copy of a video on the site of an industry professional. Yep, real smart.
It’s partly a matter of marketing. What Wired’s cris anderson calls the long tail.
A video like that probably wouldn’t sell well in a video store, because you are turning off big parts of the potential buyers. But, online, the trick is meet an unfufilled need and publicise it well enough that people looking for it can find it. I tend not to buy videos myself – more into public domain stuff,and hope to make my own someday. The marketplace of people who identify,and shop, as bisexuals, isn’t large, and cross that with spankos and you’ve cut it down further. But for those people, however many there are, you address their needs and you win a loyal customer. It’s partly a matter of keeping overhead low until you build enough clientele. So no plane tickets.. figure out who is local to each other, wants to make videos like that for fun, have a central site to handle distribution, partner with the other small producers/distributors to market it as a sideline that would interest some but not most of their current customers.
I’m happy to talk about this stuff; I rarely follow though and get anything finished. Cordially, vark. Nice site here, noticed it via a comment on youtube.
Vark, good point, of course. On the Net even the most obscure fetishes find both supply and demand. The only problem with your model, though, is that making spanking movies is an incredibly expensive hobby; so is publicising your stuff. A small producer can’t afford to shoot stuff that’s only going to make money off a long tail, because in the short term s/he won’t be able to afford to keep hosting it.
Mind you, people still do shoot narrow-interest movies, but finding them is often quite a job.
I imagine, a big producer may take a gamble on a less popular kink, and see what they can make, but convincing somebody to shoot something that isn’t their _or_ many of their customers’ kink is like pitching a spanking movie to Steven Spielberg. :)
Oh well, I know how it is.
Quite a few years ago, I had a girlfriend and we were in her parent’s pool skinnydipping while mommy was away. Anyway, mom’s Jaguar suddenly appeared in the driveway and she hollered at us from an upstairs window.
We weren’t allowed to put our swim suits back on as she ordered us into the house – and we did indeed get it together. A willow branch is wicked on wet skin. Mommy was kinky, I suspect, but that was fine.
I am interested in F/m, M/f and F/f quite equally, but I almost never watch F/m. Why ? Because it is so extremely difficult to find ‘boys’ that
that are younger than 60 ! Yuk !
I have always wondered why spankings almost either feature girls or a few obviously middle aged men. Of course the fem-dom market tends to feature “boys” as well but that tends to drift away from disciplinary spanking to foot worship and bondage which I am not really interested in. Also there is the gay market, but that seems to blend spanking with gay sexual activity, which does not interest me.
I would be interested in getting a spanking as a “boy” and I still have a boyish look about me. I have always fantasized about an otk hand or hairbrush spanking by a female teacher or mother figure, and I would like it even better if I had to watch a female classmate get hers before I got mine.
Not the first time on this page, however this time I landed here again by searching for m/m videos. And the title of the post grabbed my attention. :) I would *love* to see a sexy older guy spanking really good another sexy younger guy and girl. There are so many plots that someone can come up with!
And in terms of interests: well, the market shapes the mind and the interests in time. I started with M/m when I was too small to know what I liked, continued with M/F when I knew what spankings did to me, and now, except for F/M and M(F)/ffff(mmm) (at n power), I like everything. A guy getting his ass whipped is damn sexy!
I am sure not everyone agrees, but a good story about which people can say – “ok, this is possible and it can happen” – can sell like hot bread. And pleeasee… some good acting! :)
Thanks for the post! :)
James,
I’m M/F, heterosexual, but my first Domina while I was in college would auction me at clubs in New York. After a few months, it wasn’t just on “ladies’ night.”
I just stumbled on this old thread. It is indeed a very hot scenario, and there are a few videos around – though not enough for my liking. Miss Marchmont have produced a few F/mf videos. There is ‘Miss Birch’s Study’, which features Nina Birch as a Headmistress punishing Peter Clark and Rachel Lloyd, first separately, then together. There is even one scene of them both bending over together, bare bottoms touching, while they are strapped.
Then there is ‘Heading for Trouble’ in which Peter and Nina are Head boy and Head girl, who are ordered by Headmistress Eve Harper (aka Lucy Bailey) to punish each other. They spank, strap and paddle each other enthusiastically, but agree to let each other off the cane, so this is administered to each of them by Miss Harper, while the other watches.
In ‘What Katie Did’ Headmistress Eve Harper spanks and canes Sam Johnson, while a boy is listening outside the door. He is discovered and is punished in front of a naked Sam Johnson.
Finally, there is ‘Maid to Serve’ (by English Dungeon, not Miss Marchmont) – a Victorian-set story, and one of the most convincing I’ve seen, with few obvious anachronisms, such as electrical fittings, or people saying ‘OK’. A strict Victorian mistress (Eve Harper) punishes her butler (Peter Clark) and maid (Nina Birch).
All highly recommended.
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Sorry to resurrect this old thread but I really love this fantasy scenario. I have a few of the videos mentioned above but none of them quite gets it right (though some come close) It needs a mixture of humiliation (exposed genitals in front of each other), punishment, uniforms and good-looking 20ish male and female…
how about FM/m, or maybe FM/f?
The idea of boys & girls being spanked together also appeals to me.
When I was at primary school boys and girls were sometimes called out and made to wait for punishment. The teacher would generally smack the backs of hands of girls and cane the palms of boys! Once I was called out and had to stand next to a girl to be punished. The girl was smacked then I was also smacked, she could not find the cane!
Now I wished we had each had to bend over for the cane, That thought is very exciting now!