Lies Told To a Spanking Model
Scenology, Shooting Films — By Adele on 11 October, 2006 11:09 amI found this great (and painfully true) list of “Top 10 Lies Told to Naive Artists and Designers”. With certain changes, it can be used by any freelancer. The list includes points that can be useful to a spanking model:
- Do this one cheap (or free) and we’ll make it up on the next one.
- Do this for us and you’ll get great exposure! The jobs will just pour in!
- Contract? We don’t need no stinking contract! Aren’t we friends?
The answer to all three is “yeah, right”. Are you sure you’ll call me back for a second shoot – after all, a new girl is so much more valuable than one who’s already shot for you? Jobs don’t just “pour in” – you have to solicit producers, even if you’re relatively well known. As for the stupidity of the last point, I don’t even need to go there, do I?
I’m sure there are other lies told to spanking models, although I have too little direct experience to identify them. (Dealing with decent people in the scene means that I’m probably still quite naive in some respects.)
A can think of a few, drawn from conversations with friends (with translations):
- “We don’t need any new models right now.” (We only shoot 18-year-old vanilla girls from model agencies. They cry more convincingly.)
- “You don’t have to do anything you’re not comfortable with.” (Although, if you admit to struggling to take the pain or the exposure, we’ll never book you again, or try not to pay you in full.) This is a tricky one, because this isn’t always a lie: with decent producers you really don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. For girls whose income depends on being booked regularly, this can be a difficult line to walk.
- “Try somebody else; we are not shooting any time soon.” (Except with models who are not you. We hope you won’t find out.)
- “You’re brilliant! Can you take 30 more with the cane?” (We book you because you can take a lot of pain, though really we think you’re an ugly cow. Turn your back to the camera.)
Is there anything I’m missing?
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For freelance journalists, a common line is “send us an invoice for your services, then we’ll send you a cheque”. Chasing the money makes for a frustrating week’s work. Is this the same in your industry, or is the work still largely cash in hand?
Depends on the company. In my experience it’s been cash, but I’ve talked to girls who got paid by cheque.
A friend of mine had lots of fun squeezing a non-bouncing cheque out of one company… It’s convenient to have friends from whose mistakes you can learn…
There’s also the “We have to pay you in local currency rather than the currency we agreed in email” when they see an opportunity to screw you on the exchange rate. (In the end I did get the original fee quoted, and in the currency I wanted.)
Good point, Niki!
As a photographer with work appearing in Janus and other publications I would underscore the fact that any professional will act “professionally”. This includes payment (cash is easiest) working within the models “limits” and ensuring that the model is comfortable with what is happenning, If the photographer follws the “code” then greta results will be possible…A final comment…sometimes the models need to be more streetwise…I will always provide references of girls I have worked with and suggest that they contact them directly….All models should have an “awareness” …finally, I have no objection to a friend coming along..why should anyone else…
Great safety advice all in all, thank you, Roy.
It is a shame that not all porducers are Kosher. It really is. As it is I have great pride that myself and Mr Stamp do make sure the girls have a great time at our shoots for Bars and Stripes. Other shoots I have always really had fun at are Northern Spanking, where again the atmosphere is hard working but fun and in no way will your limits be pushed without your say so.
I guess we all have to be a bit streetwise and deal with the business side responsibly, else the scen would be a very sad place
Well, Leia, as I said, I’ve been spoiled by working with decent people :)
Hi Adele,
I feel the same way, Cutey.
It’s wonderful to work for good people who take care of their models and treat them accordingly.
I have to agree with Leia about B&S. It’s obvious that the models there enjoy themselves while on your set. it’s clear to me that all of them have a healthy love for taking a hard spanking. That goes for Northern Spankings as well.
Razor
I guess I have been lucky — I have more limits and “no’s” than probably any other spanking video performer, and I’ve still gotten good work and good treatment. The first thing Eve Howard wrote to me when we first contacted each other back in 1999 was, “What are your limits?” And she respected them.
However, I’ve only worked for two companies, so I don’t have experience with the lies and horror stories that can happen with the disreputable ones. It’s a shame that the good companies have to work so hard to overcome the bad reps the others engender within the industry.
Razor – glad you agree :)
Erica – from what I’ve heard of Eve Howard, you’re indeed in good hands there. (OK, so you end up smacked anyway… but at least you’re smacked in the way you like ;) )
Hi
I don’t really agree with the comments made by Adele at the top of this posting (being honest about it). If a model does not possess the right qualities you are seeking for a shoot and has approached you, what are you to say? You are polite and say we will get back to you there is no other choice but to say that is there? Or am I mising something? If this is not so then of course a Producer would have to shoot every model in the country.
As for limits of the model in spanking obviously all comments above are accepted. There must be great care taken with first timers and unfortunately I heard of one very unsavoury character operating from West London who seems to enjoy inducting new girls, naiive, poor and so on into taking some helva hiding whilst he snorts ample amounts of white powder. I cannot think of this as modelling and he is doing a great diservice to the spanking scene – I just hope I never get to meet him.
“If a model does not possess the right qualities you are seeking for a shoot and has approached you, what are you to say?”
You say “I’m sorry, but we don’t think you’re suitable for our needs.” The truth: it’s that easy. It’s what I’ve heard in other job applications, and it’s what I hope to hear if ever somebody doesn’t wish to book me as a model.
I don’t think people should say “We will get back to you” unless they really mean it. Because then, when somebody actually *means* it when they say “we can’t shoot right now, but will get back to you”, they’re in an awkward position of not being quite believed.