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	<title>Comments on: Remembering the Pain</title>
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	<description>A Blog of Musings on the Science of Artistic Suffering</description>
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		<title>By: Adele</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-142701</link>
		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ice won&#039;t do any harm, but I don&#039;t bother with it. I like the pain to last for a while :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ice won&#8217;t do any harm, but I don&#8217;t bother with it. I like the pain to last for a while :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-142694</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you sit on some ice for a while afterwards, or is it not recommended?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you sit on some ice for a while afterwards, or is it not recommended?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-120520</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yours, Adele, really is a wonderfully descriptive blog and, coupled with Ludwig&#039;s details as a top, and the film itself, makes the scenario even more enjoyable  -  and certainly much more informative  -  than being present at the shoot.  

I only asked about the stripping scene because both Niki and Pandora had suggested that a similar experience was particularly &quot;HOT&quot;.  But obviously not in your case.   Just a relief !  

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yours, Adele, really is a wonderfully descriptive blog and, coupled with Ludwig&#8217;s details as a top, and the film itself, makes the scenario even more enjoyable  &#8211;  and certainly much more informative  &#8211;  than being present at the shoot.  </p>
<p>I only asked about the stripping scene because both Niki and Pandora had suggested that a similar experience was particularly &#8220;HOT&#8221;.  But obviously not in your case.   Just a relief !  </p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-114749</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to tell you that I love your blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to tell you that I love your blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Curt</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-114748</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading your blog on &quot;The Garden Party&quot;. I have often wondered about what went on a Lupus filming and what the ladies in the film thought.
     Thank you,
         Curt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading your blog on &#8220;The Garden Party&#8221;. I have often wondered about what went on a Lupus filming and what the ladies in the film thought.<br />
     Thank you,<br />
         Curt</p>
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		<title>By: Adele</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-114624</link>
		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that&#039;s an interesting one. I&#039;m actually half-way into writing a post about topping, so there should be something up on the blog on this topic in the next few days.

Short answer: it&#039;s nothing like bottoming :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that&#8217;s an interesting one. I&#8217;m actually half-way into writing a post about topping, so there should be something up on the blog on this topic in the next few days.</p>
<p>Short answer: it&#8217;s nothing like bottoming :)</p>
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		<title>By: krampus</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-114623</link>
		<dc:creator>krampus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>h All rigt, there were too many  questions, on too high a level of generality. Can I ask you a pair of more precisely focussed  questions; In what way, if any, is  the experience of topping LIKE, AND  IN WHAT WAYS IS IT UNLIKE,  the experience of being beaten? 

I appreciate that  your answer will be personal, and  will need to be qualified by &quot;It depends on the all sorts of variables.  But is there one  essential similarity and one  (equally  essential)   difference?  If you are unable to  answer these questions then I shall accept that they can&#039;t be answered. (That&#039;s not a compliment, that&#039;s my honest  assessment, based on  my constant readership of your writings bloggy and twittery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>h All rigt, there were too many  questions, on too high a level of generality. Can I ask you a pair of more precisely focussed  questions; In what way, if any, is  the experience of topping LIKE, AND  IN WHAT WAYS IS IT UNLIKE,  the experience of being beaten? </p>
<p>I appreciate that  your answer will be personal, and  will need to be qualified by &#8220;It depends on the all sorts of variables.  But is there one  essential similarity and one  (equally  essential)   difference?  If you are unable to  answer these questions then I shall accept that they can&#8217;t be answered. (That&#8217;s not a compliment, that&#8217;s my honest  assessment, based on  my constant readership of your writings bloggy and twittery.</p>
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		<title>By: Adele</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-114475</link>
		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goodness, Krampus, I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a thesis in human sexuality in there somewhere. (Or philosophy? AND philosophy?)

Let&#039;s postulate that pleasure can be physical or mental/emotional. 

I would also argue that each of those types of pleasure can come from physical or mental stimuli. I.e., you purr when touched, and smile when complimented - but also you can feel physically turned on upon hearing certain words or watching certain things, or get emotional pleasure out of physically unpleasant experiences (the pain of a strenuous work-out, or of a severe thrashing).

From here it becomes an exercise at working out what pleasures you in exactly the way you want, and venturing forth to get it. (I am an unashamed epicurean!)

The mix of real and make-believe that you need to push your buttons is so personal, I don&#039;t think we can draw a universal picture at all, but I&#039;m sure you&#039;re right, in that the presence of different components can easily heighten and kill pleasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodness, Krampus, I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a thesis in human sexuality in there somewhere. (Or philosophy? AND philosophy?)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s postulate that pleasure can be physical or mental/emotional. </p>
<p>I would also argue that each of those types of pleasure can come from physical or mental stimuli. I.e., you purr when touched, and smile when complimented &#8211; but also you can feel physically turned on upon hearing certain words or watching certain things, or get emotional pleasure out of physically unpleasant experiences (the pain of a strenuous work-out, or of a severe thrashing).</p>
<p>From here it becomes an exercise at working out what pleasures you in exactly the way you want, and venturing forth to get it. (I am an unashamed epicurean!)</p>
<p>The mix of real and make-believe that you need to push your buttons is so personal, I don&#8217;t think we can draw a universal picture at all, but I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right, in that the presence of different components can easily heighten and kill pleasure.</p>
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		<title>By: krampus</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-114449</link>
		<dc:creator>krampus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies for the typing in the last 5 lines; I&#039;d   got to the point where  every correction  led to two new typos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for the typing in the last 5 lines; I&#8217;d   got to the point where  every correction  led to two new typos.</p>
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		<title>By: krampus</title>
		<link>http://adelehaze.com/remembering-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-114448</link>
		<dc:creator>krampus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you  have written is wonderfuly  clear, highly rational,  and a million miles from porn. You may hve got there via erotic spanking, spanking for fun , bottom exhibitonsm, all sorts of teasing play. But this was in a different universe. All of which brings me to some    questions I&#039;ve been ponderig since  starting to read your, and Niki&#039;s and some of the other intelligent spanking blogs that are blossoming on the net. What are the different satisfactions that different people get from different aspects of spanking?  The spanker clearly isn&#039;t getting the same joys from it as the  spankee. Different styles and human  contexts apparently generate not only different  intensities but different  kinds of response, whether you are  active, passive or just  watching. Knowedgetha what you ar seeing is abslutely real mk it diffeen rom what you realize is play, whe eh pain may be real enough but where eh situaton is make-believe. AS a German philospher  Ludwig shoud be invited to discuss the phenomenology of spanking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you  have written is wonderfuly  clear, highly rational,  and a million miles from porn. You may hve got there via erotic spanking, spanking for fun , bottom exhibitonsm, all sorts of teasing play. But this was in a different universe. All of which brings me to some    questions I&#8217;ve been ponderig since  starting to read your, and Niki&#8217;s and some of the other intelligent spanking blogs that are blossoming on the net. What are the different satisfactions that different people get from different aspects of spanking?  The spanker clearly isn&#8217;t getting the same joys from it as the  spankee. Different styles and human  contexts apparently generate not only different  intensities but different  kinds of response, whether you are  active, passive or just  watching. Knowedgetha what you ar seeing is abslutely real mk it diffeen rom what you realize is play, whe eh pain may be real enough but where eh situaton is make-believe. AS a German philospher  Ludwig shoud be invited to discuss the phenomenology of spanking.</p>
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